Kimora Lee Simmons is opening up about her true emotions relating to daughter Aoki Lee’s transient involvement with a a lot older man in April 2024.

In an unique preview clip from the Not Skinny However Not Fats podcast that was teased forward of the Dec. 9 episode, Simmons talks with host Amanda Hirsch about watching her then-21-year-old daughter spend time with 65-year-old restaurateur Vittorio Assaf, whom she met in St. Barths again in 2024.

Simmons blatantly referred to as it an age hole relationship, briefly mentioning Leonardo DiCaprio earlier than backpedaling and saying he [DiCaprio] wasn’t as previous as Assaf.

Simmons explains that though she had identified Assaf for years, she was shocked to see him linked to her daughter. “I knew him, however not like that – not with my child,” she says, noting that his repute “most likely precedes him.”

Hirsch asks if she needed to confront Assaf. Simmons admits she did, however all the pieces occurred so quick that she couldn’t react the best way she needed. The state of affairs escalated publicly nearly immediately, leaving her to search out out on the similar time the remainder of the world did. As a mom, she says, she couldn’t leap in with an “I advised you so” or “What are you doing?” though these ideas crossed her thoughts. She additionally says “I let my youngsters make my very own errors,” calling it “residing out your life.”

Hirsch then asks how she dealt with Aoki’s emotional expertise. Simmons says she tries to let her youngsters be taught from their very own errors, particularly since residing life publicly is already difficult. She believes the connection wasn’t substantial, calling it “only a second.” Nonetheless, she acknowledges that excessive age-gap relationships can really feel “predatorial and kinda loopy,” primarily based on her personal previous experiences.

4 days after PEOPLE confirmed the pair had been spending time collectively, a supply near the household mentioned the 2 had already gone their separate methods. “Not solely is it over – it was by no means actually a factor,” the insider mentioned, including that whereas Aoki continues to be studying to deal with her non-public life below public scrutiny, Kimora was understandably anxious given her personal historical past.